I don’t debate today with members of the flat earth society – that issue’s closed; you know, it’s not one that anybody wants to debate. I don’t debate about whether homosexuality is evil or good; it’s morally neutral. – Rt. Rev. Bishop John Shelby Spong

Bishop Spong is one of our nation’s leading – and most controversial – theologians, who for decades has been a powerful voice calling for inclusivity, reform and renewal in the Church. He is also a long time friend of State of Belief.

In Part II of a wide-ranging and candid conversation, Rev. Welton Gaddy and Bishop Spong talk about the opposition he faced while growing in his understanding of Christian acceptance and love of all people; the role of the Church in today’s society; and the evolution of an increasingly diverse culture, nation, and world.

Bishop Spong is the author of the new book The Fourth Gospel: Tales of a Jewish Mystic.

Click the “play” button above to hear the interview. To download this audio, click hereDownload Transcript coming soon. To hear the entire August 17, 2013 State of Belief Radio program, click here.

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